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		<title>By: Jaedi</title>
		<link>http://blog.jaedi.eu/2009/03/rent-allowance-not-accepted/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaedi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite possibly. Thanks for the clarification. Incidentally, I just found a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055045272&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thread on Boards.ie&lt;/a&gt; that discusses that very issue. I remember, years ago when I was renting a flat in Dublin, I had problems getting Rent Relief (if I use the term correctly). The landlord lived in Spain and it was her sister who collected the rent. She refused to give me the landlord&#039;s PPS number (RSI number back then) which you needed to complete &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/it/forms/rent1.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Revenue&#039;s Rent 1 Form&lt;/a&gt;. When I said I would deduct the equivalent tax and pay her the net amount (which is Revenue&#039;s procedure for overseas landlords), she lost her temper... I didn&#039;t push the issue (I was young and naive) and simply submitted the form with all the details I had about the landlord but without her PPSN. When I received my next pay cheque, I happily discovered that Revenue had granted my rent relief. It would give me some satisfaction if they had managed to identify her and tax her accordingly, but I&#039;ll never know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite possibly. Thanks for the clarification. Incidentally, I just found a <a href="http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055045272" rel="nofollow">thread on Boards.ie</a> that discusses that very issue. I remember, years ago when I was renting a flat in Dublin, I had problems getting Rent Relief (if I use the term correctly). The landlord lived in Spain and it was her sister who collected the rent. She refused to give me the landlord&#8217;s PPS number (RSI number back then) which you needed to complete <a href="http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/it/forms/rent1.pdf" rel="nofollow">Revenue&#8217;s Rent 1 Form</a>. When I said I would deduct the equivalent tax and pay her the net amount (which is Revenue&#8217;s procedure for overseas landlords), she lost her temper&#8230; I didn&#8217;t push the issue (I was young and naive) and simply submitted the form with all the details I had about the landlord but without her PPSN. When I received my next pay cheque, I happily discovered that Revenue had granted my rent relief. It would give me some satisfaction if they had managed to identify her and tax her accordingly, but I&#8217;ll never know.</p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
		<link>http://blog.jaedi.eu/2009/03/rent-allowance-not-accepted/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I get it completely wrong but:
http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Publications/SW58a/Pages/58a.aspx

Tells me that rent allowance is for any changes in your current rent. If you move house, or room, it&#039;s not a new agreement between you and your landlord, but a completely new agreement between you and a NEW landlord. So anybody that is looking for a room on Daft is not allowed any rent allowance. As they change their own situation opposed to a situation beyond their control when their landlord decides to change the rent.

Maybe you are confusing Rent Allowance with Rent Relief? 
Rent Relief is something for the revenue office and has little to do with Rent Allowance that is controlled by the welfare office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I get it completely wrong but:<br />
<a href="http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Publications/SW58a/Pages/58a.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Publications/SW58a/Pages/58a.aspx</a></p>
<p>Tells me that rent allowance is for any changes in your current rent. If you move house, or room, it&#8217;s not a new agreement between you and your landlord, but a completely new agreement between you and a NEW landlord. So anybody that is looking for a room on Daft is not allowed any rent allowance. As they change their own situation opposed to a situation beyond their control when their landlord decides to change the rent.</p>
<p>Maybe you are confusing Rent Allowance with Rent Relief?<br />
Rent Relief is something for the revenue office and has little to do with Rent Allowance that is controlled by the welfare office.</p>
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		<title>By: Señor Burrito</title>
		<link>http://blog.jaedi.eu/2009/03/rent-allowance-not-accepted/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Señor Burrito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst I hate landlord tax evasion, there&#039;s no guarantee that non-acceptance of rent allowance has anything to do with it. Ireland, being as inefficient and systematically blind with respect to various government departments, would probably not pick up on rent allowance vs. non-declaration of rental property. 

Much worse than the issue you mention is that the PTRB don&#039;t scan daft for unregistered properties - a very simple task, but one they simply don&#039;t bother with. Another example of governmental apathy and non-enforcement is revenue and the land registery not putting two and two together. They know who owns what, and how one was assessed and how much for in any given year. They also know who was born died or got married. Joint assessment means one principal residence. Do they follow it up. No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst I hate landlord tax evasion, there&#8217;s no guarantee that non-acceptance of rent allowance has anything to do with it. Ireland, being as inefficient and systematically blind with respect to various government departments, would probably not pick up on rent allowance vs. non-declaration of rental property. </p>
<p>Much worse than the issue you mention is that the PTRB don&#8217;t scan daft for unregistered properties &#8211; a very simple task, but one they simply don&#8217;t bother with. Another example of governmental apathy and non-enforcement is revenue and the land registery not putting two and two together. They know who owns what, and how one was assessed and how much for in any given year. They also know who was born died or got married. Joint assessment means one principal residence. Do they follow it up. No.</p>
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